Jack Kaye presented at the NASA Hyperwall at the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) conference on Feb. 12, 2016. He was joined by "Honest Abe," a mascot for the Washington Nationals baseball team.

Where are you from?

I was born in Brooklyn, N.Y., but grew up on Long Island in a small village called Malverne. It is located about 45 minutes from Manhattan, which gave me ready access to both New York City and the Long Island suburbs when growing up.

Describe the first time you made a personal connection with outer space.

I remember watching as many of the early NASA manned space launches on television as I could. In school they would sometimes bring a television into class so we could watch them. As a kid I used to write to NASA to get pictures of the astronauts.

My parents helped give me confidence that I could learn, but also they gave me the discipline to understand that I had to work at it.
- Jack Kaye

The first real close connection I had to space was in ninth grade, when a friend and I wrote a report on something like "The Physics of Space Flight" for our Earth science class. A few of us also set up an after school astronomy club that met at a friend's house once a week. That Earth science class also had a big impact on my interests in the world around me. One could hypothesize that there is a real connection between that class and my NASA Earth science career!

How did you end up working in the space program?

I did not follow a traditional path. My formal education was in chemistry, and I did my Ph.D. in theoretical physical chemistry at the California Institute of Technology (Caltech), working on the quantum mechanics of chemical reactions with an aim toward being able to understand, and ultimately calculate, reactivity.

I decided that I was more interested in using rate constants than calculating them, and from auditing classes in Earth and planetary science I became exposed to studies of planetary atmospheres. I ended up doing post-doctoral research in this area at the U.S. Naval Research Lab in Washington, D.C. From there, I was hired as a chemist in a group of meteorologists at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md. That gave me a chance to study the chemistry of Earth's atmosphere, focusing on stratospheric ozone -- the protective layer of ozone in the upper atmosphere that absorbs most of the sun's ultraviolet light. After some six years at Goddard, I moved to NASA Headquarters, where I've been working ever since.

What is an associate director for research?

In my job as associate director for research in the Earth Science Division of NASA's Science Mission Directorate, I am responsible for the research program that NASA has to study the Earth, using satellites, aircraft, surface-based measurements and computer models. The program covers everything from the center of the Earth to the stratopause -- the boundary between the stratosphere and mesosphere layers of the atmosphere -- including the atmosphere, ocean, cryosphere, biosphere, land surface and Earth's interior!

Tell us about a favorite moment so far in your career.

It's hard to pick just one. I've had so many interesting opportunities and great experiences. Here are a couple of very different memorable examples.

As program scientist for the ATLAS (Atmospheric Laboratory for Applications and Science) series of space shuttle flights in the 1990s, I helped oversee the science carried out by the payload (as many as a dozen instruments) that came from several different countries. Being involved in those missions was great fun, and I learned so much about how valuable Earth observations were made in space and how the shuttle observations could both contribute to and benefit from satellite observations. I attended five shuttle launches -- three for the ATLAS missions, and two others -- which was always a humbling experience.

As a program manager, one of the great joys for me was to help early-career investigators get their first awards to help establish them in their careers. Seeing them succeed was so rewarding.

In my current role associate director for research, being able to periodically "make something happen" by green-lighting ideas that come to the Earth Science Division from our staff and the community, and then putting programs in place to address those objectives, is a wonderful feeling.

Jack Kaye standing in front of a sign that reads, You can be a Climate Action Hero too!
Jack Kaye visits the state zoo of North Carolina in Asheboro in Feb. 2016.

Who inspired you?

Many teachers I had all throughout my education inspired me. In particular, I remember my high school Earth science teacher, Robert Johnson, and my undergraduate physical chemistry professor, Stanley Windwer (at Adelphi University).

In graduate school, I was exposed to Earth science through professor Yuk Yung at Caltech, who was very open and approachable in encouraging me to pursue my interests in atmospheric science. I consider it a privilege to count him as a colleague now!

My parents helped give me confidence that I could learn, but also they gave me the discipline to understand that I had to work at it. My brother set a great example. He excelled in learning, but I never remember feeling I had to compete with him; just follow his example.

What advice would you give to someone who wants to take the same career path as you?

My advice is to try to find the right balance of depth and breadth -- and that balance may be different for everyone. While you have to become expert in something, it's also good to pay attention to related areas and keep learning. I changed fields and feel that I've never really stopped learning new things.

It's also good to understand the broader societal and scientific context in which you're doing your work, and to think about how you can tell others (not just scientists) about the work that you're doing.

What do you do for fun?

I like to spend time with my family, of course, and to walk, read and cook.

If you were talking to a student interested in science and math or engineering, what advice would you give them?

Besides the typical science-related advice, I would encourage those looking to work in STEM -- science, technology, engineering and mathematics -- disciplines to get comfortable with public speaking. Most scientists have many opportunities to talk about their work, and it's so helpful to be able to do that without a lot of stress. The presentations that one does will almost certainly be better if one really enjoys it. Taking a public speaking class may be really helpful. I did that in my first semester of college, and I think that had a major impact in reducing anxiety about public speaking. It's also good to talk about one's work to different audiences as opportunities come along. Having some similar comfort in writing is also really valuable. Taking advantage of opportunities to write can be helpful. I did a bunch of student newspaper work in college, and having to write something almost every week for four years was great training.


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